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Post by catapult3060 on Feb 24, 2021 7:26:39 GMT
Hey guys
So I really don't know if this this the right place to post this thread, but I thought I would give it a try and see what people think...
I am in a really difficult situation at the moment and COVID has made it worse for me. I am a 30 year old gay guy from a very very small town in the UK. I have always struggled to get the money together to move to London over the last few years as I have spent time travelling and moving into different jobs.
I actually moved to London last year but because of COVID, I was made redundant after only a few weeks! So I had to move back to my family home whilst COVID was destroying the earth..!
I managed to find a small job to help me save, and I have now managed to save enough to help me move back to London again (Once things open up!) However I am in a situation where I am struggling to secure meaningful work in London through recruiters...I come from a Finance background, although with very little experience. I have been told I need more experience in the field before I manage to secure a placement in the City. But here in my local town, which is a big Finance centre, I am very likely to find a good job in this field almost immediately. My question is, do I try to put my 'moving to London' on the back burner for another year and then move to London after gaining more experience and potentially even a transfer with my company? Or do I just make the move to London as soon as possible and hope to find a job when I get there..potentially having to get a small job outside of my normal career path..
A few other reasons to stay:
1) I am likely to find a job with a large global company who will pay to train me up..(Jobs like this in London for someone with my experience are far an few between and generally reserved for exceptional graduates)
2) Paying less rent for the time being
My biggest battle is my mental health...I have spent years trying to get out of my town, but major things have always got in the way, and then COVID came along. I have really struggled to be here, living at home with not many friends. The thought of being here for another year freaks me out enormously...so I need some advice and to hear other peoples thoughts of what they would do? Is it worth waiting another year or so before moving when I am likely to find a good job in my current field or to move as soon as possible without a job in the hope to find one when I get there.
I guess I am worried about my mindset when being stuck in a small, backwards, anti LGBT town...
Thanks all!
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Post by Rasher on Feb 24, 2021 12:50:07 GMT
Hi catapult. Welcome to the forums. Absolutely the right place to post this. Sorry to hear you had to move back home last year. Especially when you've set your mind on moving to London and begining a new life. But I guess a good thing to know is that you're not the only one this happened to. I even know some who have lived here for years and then moved out of London due to finances. It's not a great city to be in right now because it's still very expensive and if you don't have full time employment some landlords won't rent to you. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to this question because both answers are right. Some might say go with it and just move and see what happens, what's the worst thing that could happen. Others will say be a bit more cautious and get that experience you need first as it will give you a chance to be able to afford and live the London life. I myself moved to London when I was 26 and was not on a great income at the time. I struggled for the first few years to enjoy the life I had but when I did I really enjoyed myself. I think it's down to what type of life you want to live in London and that will help you find whether right now or when you can get a good paying job is best. Also, listen. I fully understand about leaving a small town for the sake of your own mental health. I'm from a small town in Ireland and I couldn't wait to get out of it. The bright lights of Dublin and London were always on the cards. As I said, there is no right or wrong answer here and you'll have to go with your gut instinct. I guess if I were to give advice to myself looking back. I'd say do it all again. I found a way to live with the money I had and made it work. London life is tough but when it's good... it's really good. It can also be difficult to make friends here. Some walk right into the city and thrive. Others it takes time. The first 6 months can be hard. But I'd say bear in mind that London right now is going through a major change. Nobody is sure what will survive this. It may take it a couple of years to get back to normal. Ask yourself if that matters? In regards to your experience, my advice would be volunteer, volunteer, volunteer if you can. Volunteer your skills to a charity, small group, community group, offer your services for free to orgs that work online right now. It will give you that experience you need, and fast. 6 months doing voluntary work for a small charity could open lots of doors. We can recommend Charity Jobs, Third Sector and check out the Consortium's website for more opportunities. It may work, it may not. But it's something different to try. Can I ask, on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the most. How desperate are you to get to London right now?
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Post by catapult3060 on Feb 24, 2021 14:21:30 GMT
Hi Rasher
I cannot thank you enough for this reply. I have been struggling to explain this to anyone in my life right now. And I feel only those from the LGBTQ+ community probably understand when it comes to needing to get away from their small towns.
I totally get everything you say...both options could work, my predicament is how long do I need to wait to finally make the move. I turned 30 in lockdown and I feel my years are just drifting away from me and I have not had the enjoyment of living in the city full time all through my twenties. I feel like I’m running out of time! Which I know is silly to feel that way...but I can’t help it.
In terms of the scale of wanting to move back...right now I’m sitting around 8...bit even this changes daily. One day I feel I have to pack up and go as soon as lockdown lifts, and other days I remind myself that I am 30 now...not 21, I don’t have my twenties to spend in London trying to sort myself with a good life and career. So it really is fleeting...
Right now, my head is saying to at least stay for the next 6 months until things settle down around the world, try to find a decent job here and see how I feel about it. And I guess if it all goes ‘t**s’ up then I can just pack up and move sooner.
Thank you so much Rasher, it feels good to be able to talk about it!
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Post by Rasher on Feb 24, 2021 14:48:32 GMT
No problem. Sometimes it's difficult to explain this all to non LGBTQ+ people. They simply don't get it. That's why we're here. I also get the age thing. The great thing about London, when it gets back to normal, is that there's a different scene for every age and type. Also people inter-grate. It's not strange to see people in their mid-50 dancing on the same floor as a 21 year old. We all understand that LGBTQ+ venues are a safe space, they are not just bars. So even though you think you're waisting time, you're probably not. I'm in my mid 30s now, been in London for nearly 11 years and I can tell you that age is no barrier to do anything. I can got to G-A-Y if I like or I can go the the RVT. Both are options. But I'm aware I'm used to this life. You must feel anxious and just want to get here and start living. As I said, there is no right or wrong way to do this but maybe meet yourself in the middle. Give yourself some time but not a lot. Pick a date and work towards it and get everything you need to get done before that date. That way you set yourself goals and once you achieve some of them it will make you more confident of the move. In regards to London, the LGBTQ+ scene probably won't get back to normal for a while. You have time. Whatever you choose, do it because you want to. Go with your gut. You should check out our FindOut service. It has a lot of links to social groups in London. Some info might not be 100% up to date due to lockdowns but it will give you an idea what's available here so you can start planning findout.outlife.org.uk/ . Hope that helps!
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Post by catapult3060 on Feb 24, 2021 15:04:13 GMT
Hi Rasher
Thanks so much, your totally right about the age thing! It’s not that I worry about being 30 and being in GAY, it’s more about my career. What I mean is that I will be moving to London as a 30 year old at the beginning of his career...I don’t have my twenties to spend working in low paid jobs just to get by before I land a good job by the time I’m 30. I feel I am already really behind with my career. I feel that employers in my industry ‘finance’ will be looking for younger, fresh graduates in the roles I would have to apply for. But I really don’t know!
I think your right, if I spend the next 6 months just planning and waiting to see how things start to lift again. If I find a decent job here and see how that goes, and if I am still struggling then I guess I can pack up and move, at least I would have gained more experience...
I just want to be around my friends, enjoy my weekends on the scene with them and not spend my weekends totally alone and isolated (I was like this before COVID came along, so whilst I know everyone is the same right now, I have been like this for years whilst I have been stuck here) COVID has just cemented my loneliness.
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Post by Rasher on Feb 24, 2021 15:15:08 GMT
Ahh, okay. I get it.
I don't think it's something you shouldn't worry about but don't worry about it too much. The amount of people I've met who are in their 30s and 40s who move to London to restart again. They have to do what they have to do. The good thing about being a bit older is that you know what it takes, have some life experience and can move quickly through the systems. 30/31 is not that old to come to London to start a career. But in the meantime do try and see if volunteering for charities in their finance department might be a good move. Also small charities need treasurers to stand on their boards. If you have that skill it could look great on a CV and you help a charity/community group. It could help speed up the process while you're looking or in paid employment.
And you're most certainly not alone in wanting to spend your off time feeling isolated. But if you have a plan in place to solve that then you can deal with it until you get to where you want to be.
Have you tried any online support groups to help you with the isolation/loneliness?
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Post by catapult3060 on Feb 24, 2021 15:41:10 GMT
Thanks Rasher, I have not reached out for support, I guess I’m trying to deal with it in my own way. I will keep you updated with my progress!!
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Post by Rasher on Feb 24, 2021 15:51:55 GMT
No problem. We're always here. Please let us know how you're getting on. 😊
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